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<p>The **SPAM** subject line is probably my fault. My Thunderbird
email program adds it to a lot of email, and sometimes I forget to
get rid of it before I send. Sorry.</p>
<p>I still have Director 10 installed. Last time I checked, it was
freely available on the web. Does anyone know what that official
situation is?</p>
<p>I encourage people on the list to give us an update on what
you've done and what you're doing since Director bit the dust.</p>
<p>I retooled to JavaScript/HTML/CSS. I'd done a little of that
since 1996, but after Director, I really learned
JavaScript/HTML/CSS.</p>
<p>Here are some recent online pages/works of mine:</p>
<p>VISPO.COM HISTORY (1996-present)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://vispo.com/misc/whatsnew.html">https://vispo.com/misc/whatsnew.html</a><br>
I've maintained this page since 1998. When I post a new thing on
vispo.com, I generally make an entry in this page, with a link.
Not always, but usually. Anyway, I updated it recently to HTML5
cuz it had deprecated <font> tags and whatnot. I also put in
an interactive timeline and an icon for most of the entries. </p>
<p>LETTERS FROM LEIBNIZ (2024)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://vispo.com/aleph4/images/jim_andrews/leibniz/alchemy">https://vispo.com/aleph4/images/jim_andrews/leibniz/alchemy</a> <br>
158 images (3840x2160) generated in Aleph Null, the graphic
synthesizer I wrote in JavaScript. These are images of Leibniz's
writing, mainly. There's an essay I wrote about the project, also.
I wrote the slideshow software (Slidvid) also. </p>
<p>SEA OF PO (2024)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://seaofpo.vispo.com">https://seaofpo.vispo.com</a> <br>
It's an appzine of 52 poets in a generative, kinetic, interactive,
never-the-same-twice experience of 15 languages. It's a new
experience of poetry and poetry magazines. It also animates and
saves your texts, and creates deluxe screenshots. Yes, it's the
Swiss army knife of digital poetry magazines and a literary blast
of computer art.</p>
<p>ENIGMA N<sup>2022 </sup>(2022)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://enigman.vispo.com">https://enigman.vispo.com</a> <br>
Granular synthesis + colour music + digital poetry. </p>
<p>NEONIO (2021)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://neonio.vispo.com">https://neonio.vispo.com</a> <br>
This is an HTML5 version of a piece I created in Director,
originally, in 2000 called Nio. Nio was the first piece of art I
got paid to create; it was commissioned by turbulence.org. NeoNio
uses the original 16 sounds and the original 16 animations. My
wife converted the original 16 SWF animations into SVG. I used the
Web Audio API to do the synchronizing and playing of sounds in
NeoNio. </p>
<p>ja</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-07-09 2:57 p.m., Dana wrote:<br>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">It's
nice to see that this little community is still together after
all this time. I do primarily iOS development nowadays, but
there are so many developers that you don't get the tight-knit
feel.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">My
last Director project was around 2010, though I've had a few
requests since then to update some old projects. I still wonder
if I have some kiosks chugging along in a museum or visitor
center somewhere.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Director
made transitioning to iOS development fairly easy, having touch
screen experience, and Lingo sharing Smalltalk roots with
Objective-C.</div>
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<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">BTW,
is anyone else seeing *** SPAM *** added to the subject line?</div>
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<div class="protonmail_quote"> On Wednesday, July 9th, 2025 at
7:17 AM, Danny Kodicek <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dragon@well-spring.co.uk"><dragon@well-spring.co.uk></a> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I was reading an article the other day
talking about how modern websites are overengineered and
full of unnecessary animations and complex JavaScript
packages, and it made me think again how unfair it was
back in the day when Flash (and Shockwave to a lesser
extent) got the blame for people doing exactly the same
thing. Surprise, surprise: killing Flash didn't stop bad
design, it just made developers' lives harder.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at
10:04, Jim Andrews <<a href="mailto:jim@vispo.com"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jim@vispo.com</a>>
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<p>It's great to hear from the amazing developers of
Hopper. </p>
<p>There are 38 members, all of whom have email
addresses that are not bouncing. </p>
<p>I had to delete some bouncing email addresses from
the list yesterday cuz the bouncing was causing me
not to be able to send any email from my <a
href="mailto:jim@vispo.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">jim@vispo.com</a>
address, which is my main email address ("<span
style="white-space:pre-wrap">Domain <a
href="http://vispo.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
moz-do-not-send="true">vispo.com</a> has exceeded the max defers and failures per hour (10/10 (100%)) allowed. Message discarded.")</span></p>
<p>I talked with my hosting service three times on the
phone about it.</p>
<p>Consequently, today I sent an email to everyone,
not from the list, but from me, so I could see if it
bounced. None of them bounced, today. Which must
mean I got rid of the bouncing addresses yesterday.
</p>
<p>So the re-start of the list was a little ragged,
but I think it's working OK now. </p>
<p>Yes, Noisecrime, I too was very disappointed with
the fate Adobe inflicted on Director. </p>
<p>ja<br>
<a href="https://vispo.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://vispo.com</a>
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<div>On 2025-07-09 1:28 a.m., Noise-Mail wrote:<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">Thanks Jim for keeping the
list alive. <br>
<br>
Every few years there seems to be a message that
gets people back together, but sadly those messages
are getting less frequent. <br>
<br>
Can't quite believe this has been going for over a
quarter of a century, though I guess I also never
thought that Director would die. In many ways I feel
it was ahead of its time, or at least could have
been maintained and updated to have become a force
in the indie scene. <br>
<br>
Anyway nice to see some familiar names in here. <br>
<br>
NoiseCrime <br>
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On 08/07/2025 07:18, Jim Andrews wrote: <br>
<blockquote type="cite">Great to see some messages
on Hopper again! <br>
<br>
I am the administer of the list. <br>
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All the best to you, my friends! <br>
<br>
ja <br>
<a href="https://vispo.com" target="_blank"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
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