<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">It's nice to see that this little community is still together after all this time. I do primarily iOS development nowadays, but there are so many developers that you don't get the tight-knit feel.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">My last Director project was around 2010, though I've had a few requests since then to update some old projects. I still wonder if I have some kiosks chugging along in a museum or visitor center somewhere.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">Director made transitioning to iOS development fairly easy, having touch screen experience, and Lingo sharing Smalltalk roots with Objective-C.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;">BTW, is anyone else seeing *** SPAM *** added to the subject line?</div>
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On Wednesday, July 9th, 2025 at 7:17 AM, Danny Kodicek <dragon@well-spring.co.uk> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I was reading an article the other day talking about how modern websites are overengineered and full of unnecessary animations and complex JavaScript packages, and it made me think again how unfair it was back in the day when Flash (and Shockwave to a lesser extent) got the blame for people doing exactly the same thing. Surprise, surprise: killing Flash didn't stop bad design, it just made developers' lives harder.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 10:04, Jim Andrews <<a href="mailto:jim@vispo.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">jim@vispo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<p>It's great to hear from the amazing developers of Hopper. </p>
<p>There are 38 members, all of whom have email addresses that are
not bouncing. </p>
<p>I had to delete some bouncing email addresses from the list
yesterday cuz the bouncing was causing me not to be able to send
any email from my <a href="mailto:jim@vispo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">jim@vispo.com</a> address, which is my main email
address ("<span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Domain <a href="http://vispo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">vispo.com</a> has exceeded the max defers and failures per hour (10/10 (100%)) allowed. Message discarded.")</span></p>
<p>I talked with my hosting service three times on the phone about
it.</p>
<p>Consequently, today I sent an email to everyone, not from the
list, but from me, so I could see if it bounced. None of them
bounced, today. Which must mean I got rid of the bouncing
addresses yesterday. </p>
<p>So the re-start of the list was a little ragged, but I think it's
working OK now. </p>
<p>Yes, Noisecrime, I too was very disappointed with the fate Adobe
inflicted on Director. </p>
<p>ja<br>
<a href="https://vispo.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">https://vispo.com</a> </p>
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Jim for keeping the list alive.
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Every few years there seems to be a message that gets people back
together, but sadly those messages are getting less frequent.
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Can't quite believe this has been going for over a quarter of a
century, though I guess I also never thought that Director would
die. In many ways I feel it was ahead of its time, or at least
could have been maintained and updated to have become a force in
the indie scene.
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Anyway nice to see some familiar names in here.
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NoiseCrime
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On 08/07/2025 07:18, Jim Andrews wrote:
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again!
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I am the administer of the list.
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All the best to you, my friends!
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