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<p>Thanks, Buzz.</p>
<p>I've heard that Director was started in 1986 and it was pre-OOP. </p>
<p>Was it in C++? What IDE was used?</p>
<p>ja</p>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2025-07-11 6:42 p.m., Buzz Kettles
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It's a long
time ago so bear with me <br>
&<i> <b>if anybody wants to correct my recollections</b></i><b><i>,
please feel free to do so</i></b></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">As far as who
was in charge of what, the Director management team
changed with nearly every release.</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Individual
team members got focused on whatever new features were being
included in that release.<br>
We pair<span class="gmail_default">ed</span> 1 DEV with 1 QA
for each <span class="gmail_default"></span>n<span
class="gmail_default">ew </span>feature<span
class="gmail_default">.</span></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">At the time
of d5 release, the 'Director team' was actually several
teams:d5 (desktop), Shockwave+player and the original Xtras
team (+ some long term planning groups).</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">As the
releases moved from d5 to d6 to d7 (and for dot releases),
these teams were shuffled to meet release requirements.</div>
Dot releases were a distraction on the main flow, but absolutely
necessary for the <span class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small"></span>product to reach a 'reference
release' that would sit<span class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small"> happily</span> in the market for
roughly <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">1.5
years.</span>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Some
features rcvd ongoing updates and so some devs stayed with a
particular feature thru more than a single release..<br>
JT <span class="gmail_default"></span>a<span
class="gmail_default">lways seemed to have some </span>Lingo
architectural work with each release (duh).</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">From d6 on,
Greg Yachuck always included some sound updates (these were
often experiments that became new features when marketing
heard about them)</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Glenn Ruhle
did Text for D5 & 6, & then Alex held that chair for
D7 (I think). <br>
The original Shockwave team members generally continued to
support the networking processes.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">BUT
everything was in flux from d5 to d7.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">d5 was
desktop, mac/win, old player, multi-cast</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Shockwave 5
incorporated the swa Xtra set & streaming sound
w/SoundEdit 16 to make the swas (mp3 was still an unknown)<a
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d6 <span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">(originally
d5.5) </span><span class="gmail_default"
style="font-size:small">glued in swa (allowed compressed
audio in projectors!) and I think had bhvrs <a
class="gmail_plusreply" id="plusReplyChip-3"
moz-do-not-send="true">+</a> maybe the full blown score
(& lots more)</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">d6.5
added Flash + other 'original Xtras (I think)</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">d7 was
the rebuild of the Director UI, attached to the player,
requiring several new Xtras.</span> - the U<span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I</span> had
many features that folks didn't know existed<span
class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">, so we had a
very BIG checklist incorporating every UI element &
interaction.</span></div>
<div><span class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">As we
discovered, the Paint window had tons of 'hidden' features
that had been incorporated way, way back in the 80s - the
beta program helped find a lot of these.<br>
d7.0.2 polished up d7</span></div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">d8 was
more polish + it's attendant new features</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">d8.5 was 3D
- a massive update that doubled the size of Lingo. IMHO it
should have been called d9.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I hope this
helps</div>
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2:51\u202fPM Darrel Plant <<a href="mailto:dplant@moshplant.com"
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style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Not
so much the tech writers as other folks in the dev group. I
didn\u2019t always know who was in charge of what; I would have
loved to have been more tied into the inner workings of the
team, but my imposter syndrome inclination to be amazed that I
was included at all kept me from asking questions when I
should have.<br>
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Buzz Kettles is on here, he was inside the team the whole time
I was writing remotely and knows more names and actual roles
than I remember at this vasty remove.<br>
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> On Jul 11, 2025, at 12:41 PM, Jim Andrews <<a
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> Were you in touch with the tech writer(s) who worked on
Director? Who were they?<br>
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