some FB groups are very active and generate enormous hype/publicity for actual events..that is how Erik gets a lot of participants to his groups :-)<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Jim Andrews <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim@vispo.com" target="_blank">jim@vispo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Discussion on Facebook seems pretty limited, in my admitedly rather incomplete experience. Are you (or is anybody else) part of a Facebook group in which extended epistolary correspondance regularly occurs? Also, it isn't searchable, is it? Old posts disappear, aren't easily referenceable. I could have this all wrong, I realize. Sorry, if so.<br>
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Does Google offer some sort of umbrella thing whereby you can have a regular list and also that's hooked into video chat and whatnot? What's the 'whatnot'?<br>
<br>
ja<br>
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how about an official facebook group?<br>
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Thanks for the clarification Jim!<br>
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I'll leave this thread as is!<br>
<br>
Ben<br>
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On 13-01-29 11:43 AM, Jim Andrews wrote:<br>
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Hi Ben,<br>
<br>
The list is mainly for announcements. About Group of X events. But also<br>
related things. Announcements about new work, reviews, shows, grants,<br>
and so on. Kurzweil becoming Google Director of Technology is not any of<br>
these, of course, but it's a significant event very relevant to computer<br>
art.<br>
<br>
Occassional discussions are OK as long as they're to the point and<br>
occassional. I reserve the right to moderate the list.<br>
<br>
ja<br>
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Jeremy,<br>
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Either way Ray *wants* to be a bot. ;)<br>
<br>
I've being working piecemeal on my anti-singularity argument on the IEET<br>
forums, here is one interesting back and forth:<br>
<br>
</div></div><a href="http://ieet.org/index.php/S=**b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde**" target="_blank">http://ieet.org/index.php/S=**<u></u>b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde<u></u>**</a><br>
67c1d48cff/IEET/more/**<u></u>cannon20120801<<a href="http://ieet.org/index.php/S=b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde67c1d48cff/IEET/more/cannon20120801" target="_blank">http://ieet.<u></u>org/index.php/S=<u></u>b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde<u></u>67c1d48cff/IEET/more/<u></u>cannon20120801</a>><div>
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<br>
I have not been on this list for long, do discussions every happen? (or<br>
just announcements?)<br>
<br>
B.<br>
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On 13-01-28 01:32 PM, Jeremy Turner wrote:<br>
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On that subject, I wonder if I am following Ray's official page on<br>
facebook... It seems that I am one of three people that like "Ray's"<br>
links.. He could be a bot ;-)<br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone<br>
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On 2013-01-28, at 12:18 PM, "Jim Andrews" <<a href="mailto:jim@vispo.com" target="_blank">jim@vispo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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As Steve Dipaola pointed out to me on Facebook, Kurzweil's work as a<br>
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software inventor and business man has been pretty spectacular. He<br>
was a leader in three quite advanced areas: optical character<br>
recognition; music synthesizers; and speech recognition. In all<br>
three cases, he developed successful software and associated<br>
businesses and sold them. He has been developing and selling<br>
software since his MIT days.<br>
<br>
His writings as a futurist/transhumanist etc. and his writings about<br>
"the age of spiritual machines" are probably more high-profile than<br>
his very solid accomplishments as an inventor and software guy. He's<br>
even written a poetry generator. He's a bit wacky on some points; he<br>
says he believes it could be possible to live indefinitely into the<br>
future. Which makes you wonder if he has a grasp on what makes life<br>
worth living. But he's clearly a good choice for Google if they're<br>
looking for vision concerning AI and a proven business track record.<br>
<br>
Anyway, I guess we're all wondering what he can do at Google about<br>
'the age of spiritual machines'.<br>
<br>
ja<br>
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He is one of the first AI / transhumanists, no ?<br>
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On 2013-01-28, at 12:01 PM, B. Bogart <<a href="mailto:bbogart@sfu.ca" target="_blank">bbogart@sfu.ca</a>> wrote:<br>
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Indeed, odd! I'm curious if there are any singularity proponents<br>
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on here?<br>
<br>
I recommend the documentary "Transcendent Man" for anyone who is not<br>
familiar with Ray:<br>
</div></div><a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/**tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1" target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/**<u></u>tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1</a><<a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1" target="_blank">htt<u></u>p://www.imdb.com/title/<u></u>tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1</a>><div class="im">
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<br>
B.<br>
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Not quite sure what to make of it, but surely 'group of x<br>
newsworthy':<br>
Ray Kurzweil has been appointed Google Director of Engineering.<br>
See, for<br>
instance,<br>
</div><a href="http://www." target="_blank">http://www.</a>**<a href="http://engineeringontheedge.com/2013/**" target="_blank">engineeringonthee<u></u>dge.com/2013/**</a><br>
01/kurzweil-focuses-on-ai-at-*<u></u>*google<<a href="http://www.engineeringontheedge.com/2013/01/kurzweil-focuses-on-ai-at-google" target="_blank">http://www.<u></u>engineeringontheedge.com/2013/<u></u>01/kurzweil-focuses-on-ai-at-<u></u>google</a>><br>
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