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| | Session Start: Sun Nov 21 11:30:24 1999 |
| | | *** Topic is 'Bill Marsh & sunbrella.net, SunNov21 @ Noon PST.'
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Surd
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Hi Bill
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billseye
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hi jim
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Surd
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Good timing, huh?
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Surd
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Got the coffee.
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billseye
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yeah -- i'm in the middle of heating some noodles -- back soon
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Surd
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OK
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steve_d
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hi
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billseye
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hi steve -- hi jim -- i'm back -- you know, the only text file i created was a list of links, per your suggestion -- couldn't think of anything that isn't on the site already in html
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steve_d
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yes, sorry, i'm a bit harrasssed - kids are rioting
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Surd
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s OK
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| [11:38]
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Surd
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If you have questions, Bill, shoot.
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billseye
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none come to mind -- btw, you ever noticed how the absence of voice here is almost like a shout...?
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Surd
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howso?
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billseye
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i don't know -- just have this feeling of a "din" of (non)talking
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steve_d
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the net is particularly slow from here. i've just been trying to look again at sunbrella ...
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Surd
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yes, when there's nine people on
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Surd
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it gets dinnish
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Surd
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but exciting
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Surd
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There's some magic number maybe.
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Surd
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Tends to be as we speak.
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billseye
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no, didn't mean that exactly -- talking about the absence of sound, literally, except the tapping of my fingers -- yet i imagine voices
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Surd
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yes
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billseye
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no questions really -- can you connect to sunbrella?
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Surd
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I imagine the leap from reading aloud to reading silently was quite a leap way back when. Imagine the voices...
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Surd
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We experience that anew, somewhat, differently here.
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billseye
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and i wonder if they imagined interruptions!
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Surd
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ha
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Surd
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the writing here is extremely animated.
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billseye
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good word for it -- figuratively and literally
-- a different kind of dialogical texture -- damn, another essay to
write... :)
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Surd
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I'm at sunbrella. 
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steve_d
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is it that the performative element is increased
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billseye
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in the "chat arena" you mean?
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steve_d
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yes
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Surd
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performative, yes, that too.
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billseye
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definitely -- more improvisation, etc.
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billseye
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like the way "etc." has to be used more often cuz i really can't think of more but i'm sure there is !
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steve_d
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the way conversation becomes text is disturbing
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billseye
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what i find intriguing - a new skill to learn - is typing
and reading incoming responses as i go - i wonder if the post-structuralists
ever imagined that, ie, the conjoining of reader and writer |
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billseye
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how disturbing?
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steve_d
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attempted conjoining ...
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steve_d
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disturbing in that normal conversation is written on water
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billseye
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i feel a certain anxiety about *not* being able
to converse in that "normal" way, constantly waiting, wondering what's
going to come through next, having to revise mid-sentence even based
on new lines appearing on the screen |
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Surd
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Yes, I wish we could capture the temporal timing of the thing in the transcripts.
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Surd
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Which is often crucial.
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billseye
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and let's face it, you have to be a pretty fast and accurate typist to keep up -- we really should do some kind of study of these dynamics and how they affect the group, the socius
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billseye
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something i said?
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Surd
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Probably a blip.
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Surd
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He'll be back.
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billseye
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or a blimp cutting the line!
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Surd
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ha
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Surd
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have you looked at the transcripts?
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billseye
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only glanced -- will go back when more time -- btw, i have to go tape a poetry reading this aft, so the absolute latest cut-off for me would be 2:30 -- that's cool, isn't it?
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Surd
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yes
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billseye
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steve, one of your kids trip over the cable?!
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steve_d
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sorry, i accidentally disconnected!
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Surd
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sOK, it's a tenuous connection.
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Surd
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Generally we start around 12:15, ie, in about 15 minutes.
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billseye
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need a drink o' water (to keep my conversation more fluid) -- back stat
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echo
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hi
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echo
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hows it going?
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Surd
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Hi Beth.
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steve_d
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jim, i haven't forgotten your message in my inbox - ive been trying out linux among other things
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steve_d
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hi beth
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Surd
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sOK, etime is like that, Steve.
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echo
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hi
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echo
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duffy?
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Surd
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So what are you up to, Steve?
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billseye
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hi beth
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steve_d
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yes
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echo
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hi bill
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echo
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overslept.
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Surd
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Me too.
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steve_d
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the usual stuff, and on a steep learning curve with new things
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echo
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between the machine and caffiene |
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Surd
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Linux...
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echo
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it all moves so fast these days
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echo
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sigh
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echo
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i sound a hundred
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Surd
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Hi David!
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echo
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hey david!
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billseye
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yo d
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steve_d
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yes, linux is very different, it's not kansas any more ...
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David
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Hello. Bill, your "Drops"... is turning out beautifully.
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Surd
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What are you doing with Linux?
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billseye
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kansas = ? --- thanks david, having fun with it
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Surd
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kansas=dos
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steve_d
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kansas=windows
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Surd
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haha
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billseye
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and bill gates is the wizard behind the curtain (pay no attention!)
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Surd
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windows=seattle
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Surd
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Emerald City, yup, that'd be it.
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billseye
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woops -- got lost in my metaphor there -- bill would be aunti em...
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