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Session Start: Sun Jun 18 12:26:38 2000
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| <Jack> |
Hi Surd. Nice truncation. 'surd', that is.
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| <Surd> |
Jim here, Jack.
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| <Surd> |
A surd is a whispered thing, a hardly heard thing,
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| <Surd> |
or an irrational quantity.
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| <Guest4> |
I'm reading thru Erik Davis's Techgnosis and just found this:
"MUDS function as toy cosmologies." Nah
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| <Guest1> |
i'll be who i am
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| <Surd> |
Tom Bell?
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| <Guest1> |
right
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| <Surd> |
Hi Tom, Jim here.
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| <Surd> |
Hi runran. Who are you?
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| <runran> |
randy adams
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| <Surd> |
Hi Dirk.
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| <Guest1> |
so far nice day?
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| <Dirk> |
hello, all
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| <Surd> |
Really enjoyed your work Blue Moon, Dirk, in the drawer for long?
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| <Dirk> |
yes -- it keeps going in and out of the drawer alot :)
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| <Surd> |
Great work man.
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| <Dirk> |
thanks
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| <Guest1> |
dirk, your work hit's me at home i need to reflect on it before i get back to you but i will - tom bell
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| <Dirk> |
thanks tom
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| <Surd> |
Welcome, Jack!
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| <Jack2> |
Hi -- i knocked myself off first time. So now I'm J2
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| <Surd> |
Identity crises come and go here
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| <Guest2> |
now i'm tom i guess
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| <Jack2> |
Hi guests, all
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| <Jack2> |
What happened to the stuff I typed before?
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| <Guest2> |
no, i'm 28129?
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| <Jack2> |
No man is taller than himself
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| <Surd> |
Jack, I know you're doing fine work at theeastvillage.com
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| <Jack2> |
Bless your heart
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| <Surd> |
so I want to talk about that with you today
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| <Jack2> |
Right
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| <Surd> |
but also you have some new
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| <Surd> |
graphical work that we want to launch here today.
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| <Jack2> |
yes, overnight I did some book covers
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| <Jack2> |
if i can type straight I'll give you the url
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| <Surd> |
K
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| <Jack2> |
www.fauxpress.com/covers
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| <Jack2> |
smylie, howdy
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| <Jack2> |
and don't mean to ignore dirk and runran -- nice nicks
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| <Jack2> |
did you say you had a question about something to do with
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| <Jack2> |
village or recent work, surd?
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| <Guest2> |
what drawing software are you using, jack?
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| <Jack2> |
No drawing, just some photoshop manipulations
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| <Surd> |
Introduce yourselves when you jump in, all.
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| <Surd> |
I've surfed to the book covers, Jack. What are these for?
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| <Jack2> |
They are my evidence of interconnectedness
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| <Jack2> |
Nobody knows about these yet, I wonder if any of the poets will approve?/
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| <Surd> |
Are these for books in the works or something else?
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| <Jack2> |
No -- they are purely imaginary
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| <PbN> |
greets to all -- hello Jack
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| <Jack2> |
By the way, to get back to drawing, I can't draw
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| <Guest5> |
i keep moving up i guess - 53831 tom
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| <Jack2> |
That's why the web comes in handy
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| <Surd> |
I can draw cats but I have to label them.
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| <Guest5> |
neither can i jack
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| <Jack2> |
It's filled with stuff that's so bad, you download and mutate it, as miekal might say
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| <Surd> |
Nice concept, imaginary book covers.
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| <Jack2> |
it -- is the web
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| <Guest5> |
i don't think drawing ability is an issue
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| <Jack2> |
It would be if I had any
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| <Surd> |
Ted, the covers are at www.fauxpress.com/covers
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| <PbN> |
ok
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| <Surd> |
Yes, it would be if you had any, well put.
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| <Jack2> |
How about the dichotomy -- that's the word -- between my 'stuff' and the straight text of Village?
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| <Jack2> |
I'm being extremely conservative with Village, I think
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| <Surd> |
Would these covers have to be for books with some involvement in the Web?
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| <Jack2> |
I'm planning on e books for fauxpress -- a print press I'll start up when I get back to Cambridge
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| <Surd> |
What are they?
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| <Jack2> |
that is, print and e and their possible divisions as well as interconnectedness -- that word again
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| <smylie> |
what type of press?
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| <Jack2> |
a small press, the usual
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| <Jack2> |
except it will be _stylish_
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| <smylie> |
letterset?
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| <PbN> |
Jack, the covers are lovely -- like the nitric and others: www.fauxpress.com/nitric/base.htm
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| <Jack2> |
I'm thinking of just-in-time printing
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| <Surd> |
gotcha
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| <Surd> |
PDF?
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| <Jack2> |
Nitric of course was the basis for the covers
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| <Jack2> |
pdf -- yes, I'm sure that will be in there
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| <Guest5> |
just-in-time?
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| <Surd> |
Are those a fixed 8.5x11?
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| <smylie> |
nitric acid for etching and litho press work
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| <Surd> |
Just in time is printing on demand.
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| <Jack2> |
you know, if you need 25 books instead of 5000, you get your 25
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| <Jack2> |
8.5x11 -- what are you referring to?
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| <Surd> |
There are a few companies doing this on the Web now.
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| <Surd> |
Paper size.
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| <Jack2> |
Yes, and if you can give leads at another time, I'd appreciate it
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| <Jack2> |
paper size for books?
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| <Surd> |
yes
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| <Jack2> |
Have hopes to vary size, depending on texts, graphics, authors' whims
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| <Surd> |
Would be happy to look into this with you.
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| <smylie> |
17 x 11 folds over nice
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| <Jack2> |
great
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| <Guest5> |
surd, can you post info to the list sometime? i might start something (tom)
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| <Surd> |
Don't know how stylish the current operations allow you to be, but it holds promise, clearly.
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| <Surd> |
OK, Tom, well worth looking into.
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| <smylie> |
8.5 x 11 is familiar 1/2 17 x 11
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| <Jack2> |
yes, the tension i'll face when i get back to the states is convenience/cost of on-demand v. good design
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| <Surd> |
Would these covers have to be for books with some involvement in the Web?
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| <smylie> |
standards are price savers
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| <Jack2> |
we need price saving glamor
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| <PbN> |
Books, Jack -- your works? or more like the multi-author village?
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| <Jack2> |
No, surd, the books, the covers, are imaginary
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| <Jack2> |
the books for fauxpress, they will be 'real'
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| <Jack2> |
Nice confusion -- anticipated in the name of the press -- faux
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| <Surd> |
Would these be suitable in style for those?
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| <Jack2> |
these?
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| <Surd> |
The covers you've just shown us.
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| <Jack2> |
Gee -- I don't know if I'd accept my own work!
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| <Surd> |
haha
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| <Jack2> |
But I do like some of them a lot
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| <Surd> |
Yes, so do I.
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| <PbN> |
anthologies then... great
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| <Jack2> |
I tried to match impressions of the poets with the graphics, match
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| <Jack2> |
anthologies -- that's the east village
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| <PbN> |
I'd like to see some of your nitric... as prints
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