| <Surd> |
What I'm asking is if the digital, Web reference in them would be appropriate... guess it would depend on whether the poets had such involvement? Or not?
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| <Jack2> |
and back to e-texts, i'll very soon need to have wonderful stuff for the e part of faux, ok all?
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| <Surd> |
So you're imagining a web part that does web art and other stuff and then a print part?
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| <Jack2> |
I think of the covers as proposals, and maybe parts of them, not necessarily the webby parts, could be cropped for covers
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| <Jack2> |
for example the thumbnails in some respects are nicer than the whole graphic??
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| <Guest5> |
format? graphics, color? jack
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| <Jack2> |
Lots of questions, I'll catch up
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| <Surd> |
I guess that would depend on the capabilities of print on demand.
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| <Jack2> |
for the e -- i'm open to what people can do on the web, tho still fixated on text
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| <smylie> |
nimble manufacture?
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| <Jack2> |
no numbers are human beings
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| <Jack2> |
nimble in that it's on-demand??
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| <PbN> |
Jack, just found the rutabaga of 2 -- thank you so much! :)
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| <Jack2> |
oh, forget about it
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| <smylie> |
that's what they call it - on demand manufacture
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| <Jack2> |
that is it then
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| <smylie> |
the robot presses can switch quickly
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| <Surd> |
No humans are paper either.
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| <Jack2> |
are there any examples of good if not great printing on-demand?
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| <Surd> |
Don't know.
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| <Jack2> |
if paper is red, it is colored
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| <Jack2> |
colo-red
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| <Jack2> |
coolio
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| <smylie> |
i like "artist's books" which are actually "manuscripts"
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| <Jack2> |
me too
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| <Surd> |
if paper is read, it is dear
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| <Jack2> |
but that way is tres cher
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| <Jack2> |
dear and cher
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| <Jack2> |
if the paper is red it thrown away
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| <Surd> |
unless it is glossy in which case it is put on the coffee table.
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| <Guest5> |
it's consumed
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| <smylie> |
rag paper
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| <Guest5> |
trashed
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| <Jack2> |
can the east village extend itself beyond text and the occasional video? should it?
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| <Guest5> |
eaten/
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| <Jack2> |
eat the east village, yes!
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| <Surd> |
If you want to, Jack.
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| <PbN> |
:)
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| <Jack2> |
always rapacious
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| <Jack2> |
do any of us belong to the rhizome list?
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| <Surd> |
So you wish to faithful to the word but fool around on the side?
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| <PbN> |
yes, rhizome -- good
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| <Jack2> |
fooling around is a faith
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| <Surd> |
Yes, I am on it and nettime.
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| <Jack2> |
rhizome -- i'll have to join soon
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| <Dirk> |
yes -- lots of noise to the signal
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| <Surd> |
haha, well put
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| <Jack2> |
I'm reading a text that says there never was a space without material objects
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| <Surd> |
just so
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| <Surd> |
so?
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| <Jack2> |
no one has a private language
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| <PbN> |
everyone has a major word
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| <Surd> |
well it would not be much of a language were it totally private.
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| <Jack2> |
why do I like shattered, split and deformed language and stylistic reactions?
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| <smylie> |
a cd label press appeared on my old oak desk i am looking at it thinking - has it come to this?
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| <Jack2> |
I like cd economies
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| <smylie> |
it might be a launcher with that big spring - boing - a new distribution
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| <Dirk> |
i like shattered etc. language because it always surprises me
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| <Jack2> |
the products may be boring but the potentials are senior high
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| <Surd> |
Of what?
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| <PbN> |
it grows in (sometimes) new and unexpected ways -- revealing ?
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| <Jack2> |
if you're expecting the shattered, etc., how can you be surprised? I ask myself as well as dirk
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| <Guest5> |
artaud's language was private but my language is pretty shattered when i write
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| <Jack2> |
growing unexpectedly, that's the rhizome metaphor
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| <Surd> |
Watch it, you may be shattered if you expect to be surprised.
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| <Jack2> |
rhizome as moniker is a deconstructionist cliche, of course
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| <Guest5> |
i'd like to shatter what is and make a new language
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| <Dirk> |
i don't always know how the language will end up being shattered -- what the result will be
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| <PbN> |
you _do_ Tom!
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| <Jack2> |
I repeat, no man is taller than himself
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| <Guest5> |
thanks :)
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| <PbN> |
nor smaller, Jack
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| <Jack2> |
which direction are you pointed in?
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| <Guest5> |
who, jack? i'm lost
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| <PbN> |
east
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| <Jack2> |
muds are a toy cosmology
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| <Surd> |
But we are other than ourselves, somewhat, mediated.
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| <Guest5> |
but lost isn't bad necessarily
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| <PbN> |
:)
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| <Jack2> |
sorry for the confusion guest, et al, this is cool, each entry is about 5 seconds late
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| <Surd> |
Regardless of print or Web.
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| <PbN> |
the dynamic here is ... shattering
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| <Jack2> |
all that's left is swordplay and romance
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| <Guest5> |
wordplay and glamor?
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| <Jack2> |
maybe it's time to literalize the medieval
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| <Jack2> |
any extropians among us?
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| <Surd> |
It is a leaping form of dialectical poetics, performative...
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| <Guest5> |
time and the past and craft and soul?
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| <Jack2> |
creating 'strange' new possibilities
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| <Surd> |
What's an extropian?
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| <Surd> |
ah
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| <Jack2> |
someone who forsees uploading his brain to a machine
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| <Surd> |
Yes!
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| <Guest5> |
i just got the message - welcome EMT, police, ...
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| <Jack2> |
the police are here?
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| <Guest5> |
on my defib page?
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| <Dirk> |
i'm still a tropian
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| <Surd> |
We download our brain to pencil... silent running soul devices, those pieces of paper blowing in the wind.
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| <Jack2> |
the opposite of extropian is entropian, you know, jello ten days old
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| <Jack2> |
of course i'm in the middle of en and ex
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| <Jack2> |
jello -) fresh)
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| <PbN> |
no loading ???
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| <Jack2> |
I'm holding my own
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| <Surd> |
Brain? Jello?
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| <Jack2> |
are there ways I can reconnect these topics to ..?
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| <Jack2> |
The empire state bldg?
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| <PbN> |
The Peter Ganick cover is gorgeous...
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| <Surd> |
eheha
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| <Jack2> |
Wow, I like it too, it's really he
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| <Guest5> |
or jump off the empire state bldg as point of departure?
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| <Surd> |
Do you read a lot of books of poetry, Jack?
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| <Jack2> |
I prefer to jump into the empire state
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| <PbN> |
smilie :)
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| <Jack2> |
I like reading poetry books because they are fast reads
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| <Jack2> |
I pride myself in reading fast
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| <Jack2> |
I write fast, so why not read that way?/
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| <Guest5> |
the speed that refreshes?
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| <PbN> |
yes, good skills, Jack
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| <Jack2> |
Talk to thanatos and eros about that
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| <Surd> |
Do you get what you need in the stores in Japan?
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| <Jack2> |
There are no stores anywhere that fulfill my needs
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| <PbN> |
:)
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| <Surd> |
Do you order abroad for these?
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| <smylie> |
i am afraid to ask
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| <PbN> |
What are the green poems? They fill a need, yes?
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| <Jack2> |
sometimes, but I stock up when I get back to the states
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| <Dirk> |
jack, do you speak/read japanese?
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| <Jack2> |
the green poems like anything i do that i like happened without my knowing anything or almost anything about them
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| <PbN> |
of course
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