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<jley> |
so true
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<LossGlazier> |
So you let yourself be connected with that resistance
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<LossGlazier> |
kind of let the resonance of the material help inform the work
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<jley> |
ah yes, instead of fighting it
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<LossGlazier> |
Did you see my Bromeliad performance in Atlanta Jen?
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<jley> |
oh yes !!
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<Jim> |
yes, getting tangled up in the curtains.
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<LossGlazier> |
Great.
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<jley> |
I loved that piece ... and one reason was because I so liked the references
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<LossGlazier> |
I'm performing in London next month!
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<Drone> |
"connected with that resistance" - mmm, i like that - a key to life it sounds like to me --
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<LossGlazier> |
The Royal Festival Hall, no less!
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<jley> |
ooooo
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<jley> |
very exciting
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<Jim> |
cool
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<LossGlazier> |
Plus I have a reading in Madrid, on the way.
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<jley> |
will you read in Spanish there Loss?
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<LossGlazier> |
Yes i think that London venue is quite extraordinary!
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<LossGlazier> |
I read in Spanish at my last reading in Mexico City, J., but here
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<LossGlazier> |
since these are students interested in American Lit.
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<LossGlazier> |
prob. in English. (Tho coffee conversations will be en espanol I'd imagine.)
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<jley> |
mmm and the coffee too :) yum
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<jley> |
how wonderful to be able to travel like that
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<LossGlazier> |
which references did you mean in bromeliad?
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<jley> |
I think I was struck by how evocative the language was
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<jley> |
within the random patterning
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<Jim> |
I appreciate the way that you take the space of the page or the poem of more words than I use in my own work, Loss, you take the space of a print poem and do something else with it in this medium.
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<jley> |
so that meaning evolved because the words had so much resonance as subject for me
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<jley> |
not sure if you intended that
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<LossGlazier> |
yes i wanted the words to emerge as subject
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<jley> |
:)
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<LossGlazier> |
i really wanted it to be electronic poetry
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<LossGlazier> |
both electronic and poetry
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<jley> |
there is something so lush about tropical foliage ... so that lushness informed the digital presence for me
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<LossGlazier> |
yes jim thanks, even tho a lot of words i like to make them act like atoms, what i've learned from computing in a way
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<LossGlazier> |
interesting!
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<Jim> |
Yes, I understand.
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<LossGlazier> |
i tell that story about being under the most primitive circumstances in costa rica
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*jley likes that ... I just remembered a reference from a film to creativity as the 'dance of the hooked atoms'
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<LossGlazier> |
and it really did hit me as ... javascript!
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<Jim> |
Howso?
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<LossGlazier> |
I come from that tropical foliage and somehow that's why I'm so comfortable in the digital fold.
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<LossGlazier> |
Well Jim it was because I was in a room
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<LossGlazier> |
under very primitive circumstances
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<LossGlazier> |
and my thoughts fell into a pattern
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<jley> |
ahhhh
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<LossGlazier> |
and it was so primitive there were no competing problems, media, whatever
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<LossGlazier> |
that the pattern just seemed to want to be given life
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<LossGlazier> |
and it was as simple as a little script
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<Jim> |
ehehe
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<LossGlazier> |
so i saw the beauty of that script in the night sitting with the red tip of a volcano above me
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<Drone> |
charming sir ...
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<jley> |
so beautiful :)
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<LossGlazier> |
it was extraordinary.
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<Jim> |
Cool. Fundamental process?
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<LossGlazier> |
in the tree above the table where i wrote
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<LossGlazier> |
a hummingbird came every night and slept.
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<LossGlazier> |
just sat there on a twig all night!
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<Drone> |
denying the coldness/inhumanity the new media/um is often accused of
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*jley is remembering visuals in this presentation, yes??
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<LossGlazier> |
if not fundamental then at least basic
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<LossGlazier> |
yes, visuals
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<Jim> |
yes
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<LossGlazier> |
i also have a poem called "colibri" which is hummingbird in Spanish
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<jley> |
Claire you do that denying very well
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<LossGlazier> |
Jennifer, you are leaving Tuesday morning?
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<jley> |
I think we're going to get a jump on it tomorrow
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| [13:58] |
<jley> |
and get half way
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<LossGlazier> |
i usually do that
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*jley is thinking about the hummingbird ... did you use the hovering trope ??
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<Jim> |
It feels like we've reached the other side in the Defib raft
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<LossGlazier> |
it's been a nice journey
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| [13:59] |
<LossGlazier> |
some time we can talk about other aspects of my work
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<LossGlazier> |
i do love working in this medium
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*jley understands you all have been at it awhile
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<Jim> |
Yes, a bit of lightning but not too many waves chucking people off the raft.
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<LossGlazier> |
one big one though
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<jley> |
it's a fascinating medium ... so many different things to explore
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| [14:00] |
<LossGlazier> |
i'm doing a talk at a separate venue in London about how Spanish influences my understanding of code
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<LossGlazier> |
understanding of code
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<Jim> |
is that going to be on the Web also?
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*jley gives Claire a hug ... I'm thinking those fingers of hers must be all coded out
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<LossGlazier> |
I think some version will be. It will also become an article and a chapter in Digital Poetics II.
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<Jim> |
Yes, Claire, the new Cauldron is looking very good.
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<jley> |
aha already a II
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<LossGlazier> |
Yes i have some wonderful things for it!
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<jley> |
:)
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| [14:02] |
<LossGlazier> |
(Decided to make I more about the field in general ...
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| [14:03] |
<LossGlazier> |
and go into some specific issues in II.)
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<Jim> |
If there are any urls you'd like to send me to include in the transcript, Loss, that would be great.
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<LossGlazier> |
OK.
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<jley> |
Loss one thing I want to remember to talk to you about is the art/lit confluence
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*jley will sit on her hands now
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<LossGlazier> |
Yes, important.
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| [14:04] |
<LossGlazier> |
I'm interested in that.
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<jley> |
especially with the Whitney ... all the museums getting involved with what they call net art ... but it's lit too
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<Jim> |
Thanks very much, Loss, Claire, Jen, and all who participated.
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<LossGlazier> |
I'm going to see that exhibition.
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<Jim> |
OK, breakfast time for me, over and out folks.
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Session Close: Sun Apr 02 14:06:28 2000
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