| <re_workinpr> |
doesn't come across as such... but what about the more general notion that writing can 'make a difference'?
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| <jley> |
yes, I don't think mez's work comes across as self-conscious in a political sense ... my question was more general
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| <datahbleede> |
bri, didn't say that, spoze i shoulda cla.riff.ifed...fromme a sci perspectiff, dunno, but frome an n-trospectiff one i think it has the powah 2, but dependz on the receptivitee of the reader, contextual cuez, presentation etc etc...i am a +itivist about it :)
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| <reiner> |
have to leave now --- thanks to all and mez --- c.u.-s.u.-b.u.
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| <re_workinpr> |
between science + introspection there's human[ist] activism ?
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| <jley> |
I would hope bri :)
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| <datahbleede> |
me too:)
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re_workinpr is perhaps naive?
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| <datahbleede> |
az 4 writinge makin a diffurrence, i woodn't b doin thizz i suppoze if i ul.time.atlee thought uberwize...
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| <jley> |
naive??
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| <jley> |
nahhh why?
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| <datahbleede> |
naive az in thinkin writin can make a diff u mean?
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re_workinpr is stuck in a non-thought
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| <PbN> |
:)
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| <datahbleede> |
getz on2 the qz of y we write, i zoopoze...
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| <Surd> |
Some writing 'makes a difference' by dint of its consciousness. Other writing is engaged in the world, or the writer is, toward a different sort of 'difference'.
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jley smiles, thinks brian [cannot =] naive
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| <datahbleede> |
nice summ.ation jim, yr rightte....
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| <datahbleede> |
i wanduh b-tween motivez, motivationz, goalz when i wri[gh]te.....
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| <PbN> |
Well, whether or not it can/does/might make or be different is kind of what we're here trying to discover, yes?
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| <jley> |
i'm not sure we get to know Ted ... ??
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| <PbN> |
:)
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| <datahbleede> |
I tri 2 keep the strucktore there without rez-strict.ting[le] itte 2 much, butte alzo x-pressing N unfolded thort, emotion, etc....
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jley has to run ... enjoyed this so much .... thanks mez !!
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| <PbN> |
Mez, yr writing has made a difference in my thinking... work....
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| <datahbleede> |
ted, realli? howe so?
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| <Surd> |
Yes, ditto with Ted.
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datahbleede wood luv 2 know the difference[engine] factor....that's wunder.full!
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| <PbN> |
Mez, u open my mind/eyes to new ways of thinking about what it means... might mean
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| <datahbleede> |
whoa
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| <datahbleede> |
that's great:)
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| <PbN> |
...all the q.s here -- tho I have no answers :)
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| <datahbleede> |
don't u though? izzn't yr creation anne.sur enuff?
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| <datahbleede> |
surd, howe has it changed yr stuff?
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| <datahbleede> |
think-inge?
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| <datahbleede> |
wurk?
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datahbleede is veri curiouz...:)
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| <PbN> |
Yes, surely I could say same for many here and at WebA... but have followed yr work in particular, M, for a very long time.
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| <Surd> |
innovative, high energy writing does seem to proffer different glasses, charged with vitality and the moment.
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| <martha> |
gotta go folks, fascinating as always mez, thanks all
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| <datahbleede> |
thx 2:)
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| <Surd> |
I'm here in Victoria with my folks, so must wrap up in the next fifteen minutes.
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| <datahbleede> |
wanted 2 ask a qz with soma the gurls here
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| <datahbleede> |
ok can i ask a quik qz then?
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| <Surd> |
of course
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| <datahbleede> |
juzt wanted to [wo]mention that a high pro.portion of res.pond.dance[rz] 2 the mezangelled pozts r men...
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| <datahbleede> |
...inne the lazt batch, no gurliez partishipated...
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| <datahbleede> |
waz gonna ask y u all think sew?
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| <Surd> |
I've noted that you display a certain intellectual independence
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re_workinpr thinx this is important
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| <datahbleede> |
rightte...
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| <Surd> |
that is great.
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| <PbN> |
pennish envy?
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| <datahbleede> |
eheheh nice 1 ted:)
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re_workinpr meant, what is important = the issue of who responds etc.
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| <datahbleede> |
i've alwaze thought of mi writing 2 b androgynouz based, mebbe thizz has something 2 do with it?
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| <PbN> |
yr writing is ex-citing, Mez
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| <datahbleede> |
shore bri, gotcha.
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| <datahbleede> |
thx ted:)
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| <datahbleede> |
mebbe eye unconsciouslee make my stuff a l'tle 2 x-clusive?? knot shore, but i'm wonduhing about itte..
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| <re_workinpr> |
always been an issue on every list i've been on : male voxes/identities dominating talk-wise...
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| <PbN> |
I don't know that gender does/n't play a role so much as sensibility???
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| <Surd> |
naw, you gotta go with your best, Mez.
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| <datahbleede> |
mebbe it doezn't have anything 2 du with the genduh...
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| <datahbleede> |
shore ted, makez senze...
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| <datahbleede> |
anywaze, izz something 2 think aboute. no doubt it'll wurk itself in there, someawhere:)
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| <datahbleede> |
eheh
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| <re_workinpr> |
mez - what is the history of response to the mezangs, genderwise ? + depends on what ?
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| <datahbleede> |
well, when i phirzt started out, most ppl assumed i waz male, gotte a bit of flak about that butte i didn't dis-courage itte, was part of the avatarian threade....nowe that it's open source kode that i'm female, makez for some n-teresting responsez...
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| <datahbleede> |
itz now kindah a null-s-sue, which is goode, but i'm not that stoopid to think it doezn't facktor in2 some ppls responzes...
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| <datahbleede> |
if u get wot i mean? body politic-tock n all that:)
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| <re_workinpr> |
i think it's probably ^very^ active + even constitutive of responses + response-modes
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| <datahbleede> |
shore...
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| <datahbleede> |
mite b 1 ov thoze thingz i kneede to x-plore....
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| <Surd> |
it's challenging writing in many ways, love it, Mez/
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| <Surd> |
eheha
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| <datahbleede> |
thx all:_ great chat, very thought-n-spiring:)
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| <Surd> |
Thanks Mez, Ted, Brian, noname...
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re_workinpr imagines a parting choreography of texts, inter-facing, gestures of conduction, repercussion, improvisation, regeneration
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| <PbN> |
Yrs is a zuper art, Mez -- thank you so much for making it freely available, and please, bring us more! :)
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| <datahbleede> |
ooh yeah. letz all do it.
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| <PbN> |
And thx to all here today -- especially Surd n Mez... all best!
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| <datahbleede> |
thx all, and bezt back 2 u all:)
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| <re_workinpr> |
oui, adios
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| <Surd> |
K, over and out, all.
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datahbleede dis-n-gagez
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