[Hopperxx] RIP Director - January 27th, 2017
Jim Andrews
jim at vispo.com
Fri Feb 17 09:54:49 CST 2017
Thanks Andy and Colin for the list of interesting tools. I hadn't seen
any of the ones on your list, Andy.
I 'hand coded' both of the pieces I sent you in Sublime Text. Though
they both use jQuery; Aleph Null's sliders are jQuery widgets; and AJAX
in Globebop is simpler with jQuery. I used to use Dreamweaver. The
animation engine in Aleph Null is hand-coded. I am not a 'purist', but I
like being able to customize as much as I can.
Director MX 2004 was such a joy to create with.
ja
On 2/17/2017 7:29 AM, Colin Holgate wrote:
> Although I did do a lot of Director and Shockwave work, almost all of
> what I have done in the last 17 years has been in Flash Pro (now
> called Adobe Animate). That includes all of the mobile apps I’ve
> worked on, and all of the HTML5 work I have done.
>
> Many people are looking to Hype and other tools because they either
> always hated Flash, or now hate Adobe. I’m sure the same people will
> still be using Photoshop and Illustrator, or even have CC
> subscriptions, so it’s a weak argument.
>
> So, if you do need to do Flash or Shockwave like things for clients as
> HTML5 activities, you shouldn't rule out Adobe Animate because of
> previous bias.
>
>
>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 3:11 AM, Andy Fuchs <andy at foxwerk.de
>> <mailto:andy at foxwerk.de>> wrote:
>>
>> Fwiw... You're basically right - web (especially artful web) has
>> taken a step back and everything looks similar nowadays (often - not
>> always ��)
>>
>> Unity is great, but for me it's mostly overkill...
>> But there are some nice tools for the web too:
>>
>> - Tumult's Hype 3 is a nice one http://tumult.com/hype/
>>
>> - the Greensock framework https://greensock.com <https://greensock.com/>
>>
>> or if you're more into SVG there's the awesome fabricjs -
>> http://fabricjs.com <http://fabricjs.com/>
>>
>> and last year I did loads of stuff using Framer https://framer.com
>> <https://framer.com/>
>>
>> So - not all is lost...
>>
>> And the nice thing about most of the current stuff is, you don't have
>> to take care about if a plugin is installed, or if it plays on mobile
>> devices -> everything we got major headaches when I came to deploy
>> Shockwave creations. I have nothing to share (yet) because of tons
>> of NDA restrictions, but will definitely show some prototypes later
>> this year...
>>
>> The ones you showed are cool... I especially love the color-animation
>> in Aleph Null!
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>> Am 17.02.2017 um 08:44 schrieb Jim Andrews <jim at vispo.com
>>> <mailto:jim at vispo.com>>:
>>>
>>> Very sorry to hear this. I guess eventually Shockwave content will
>>> only be viewable via a virtual desktop serving up stuff from
>>> Windows XP and such. Probably not cheap. What's the story on that?
>>>
>>> As chance would have it, I've recently met Marc Canter and did a
>>> little work for him. Neat guy.
>>>
>>> The web has taken a step backwards from Director and Flash to HTML5.
>>> Less featureful and the tools aren't good. Mobile is a proprietary
>>> fiefdom. I suppose Unity is the alternative, at the moment.
>>>
>>> I've tried to re-tool to 'responsive design' for mobile+desktop in
>>> JavaScript. Here are a couple of recent pieces. Would love to see
>>> some recent work from the Hopper greats. Including Shockwave or just
>>> documentation.
>>>
>>> GLOBEBOP
>>> http://globebop.com/web
>>> Click the globe to be transported to a random location on the
>>> planet. Click the 'Star' button to be transported to a World
>>> Heritage Site. Click the magnifying glass (Search button) to read
>>> about where you are or search for locations. Click the Map View
>>> button to toggle between Map View and Street View. Here's an essay I
>>> wrote about Globebop: http://globebop.com
>>>
>>> ALEPH NULL
>>> http://vispo.com/alephTouch/an.html
>>> Click the "destroy" and "create" buttons (or 'd' and 'c' keys) until
>>> you get a couple of brushes you like. Here's a slideshow of (mostly
>>> 1920 x1080) images I created with Aleph Null 2.0:
>>> http://vispo.com/alephTouch/slideshow . Here's an essay I wrote
>>> about Aleph Null 2.0 and the screenshots:
>>> http://vispo.com/alephTouch/slideshow/info.htm
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Jim Andrews
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/15/2017 4:18 PM, Joshua Chunick wrote:
>>>> Wow! I haven't heard about Director in a number of years and now
>>>> within days I've heard about it twice... but the news is sad
>>>> despite having moved on from Director for some time now. :-(
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Roy Pardi <lists at roypardi.com
>>>> <mailto:lists at roypardi.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Huh? What? Is there going to be a wake?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Andy Fuchs <andy at foxwerk.de
>>>>> <mailto:andy at foxwerk.de>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What the heck is Director?? ��
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 15.02.2017 um 17:17 schrieb Colin Holgate
>>>>>> <coiin at verizon.net <mailto:coiin at verizon.net>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or whine, as the case may be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Raman Pfaff
>>>>>>> <raman.pfaff at gmail.com <mailto:raman.pfaff at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A fine wine takes time. :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rp
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Colin Holgate
>>>>>>> <coiin at verizon.net <mailto:coiin at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This message took a while to arrive!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Kettles, Buzz
>>>>>>>> <buzzkett at ku.edu <mailto:buzzkett at ku.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/27/adobe-will-stop-selling-contribute-and-director-on-february-1-drop-shockwave-for-mac-support-on-march-14/
>>>>>>>> <http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/27/adobe-will-stop-selling-contribute-and-director-on-february-1-drop-shockwave-for-mac-support-on-march-14/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Adobe will stop selling Contribute and Director on
>>>>>>>> February 1, drop Shockwave for Mac support on March 14
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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