[Hopperxx] RIP Director - January 27th, 2017

Fri Feb 17 10:29:28 CST 2017

Hi Colin,

well you are generally right... but in my case I didn't mention Adobe Animate, because I didn't know it exists (and yes - I do have a CC subscription). Still - I nowadays try to avoid Adobe software as much as I can, because every time I launch Adobe <whatever>, they install something in my launch-scripts (without asking), clutter my drives like crazy and create loads of request to the Internet (and the new open/save dialogs are slow like hell - even on my quad i7 machine)...

I find nothing wrong trying to get rid of rigid subscription based software if I don't like it. Especially where I can use my (CC) software on 2 of my 3 computers only (desk-home, desk-office, mobile) - except I activate/deactivate CC 2 times a day, which is ridiculous. 

But I took you post and I am downloading Animate as we speak... ��

andy

> Am 17.02.2017 um 16:29 schrieb Colin Holgate <coiin at verizon.net <mailto:coiin at verizon.net>>:
> 
> Although I did do a lot of Director and Shockwave work, almost all of what I have done in the last 17 years has been in Flash Pro (now called Adobe Animate). That includes all of the mobile apps I’ve worked on, and all of the HTML5 work I have done.
> 
> Many people are looking to Hype and other tools because they either always hated Flash, or now hate Adobe. I’m sure the same people will still be using Photoshop and Illustrator, or even have CC subscriptions, so it’s a weak argument.
> 
> So, if you do need to do Flash or Shockwave like things for clients as HTML5 activities, you shouldn't rule out Adobe Animate because of previous bias.
> 
> 
>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 3:11 AM, Andy Fuchs <andy at foxwerk.de <mailto:andy at foxwerk.de>> wrote:
>> 
>> Fwiw... You're basically right - web (especially artful web) has taken a step back and everything looks similar nowadays (often - not always ��)
>> 
>> Unity is great, but  for me it's mostly overkill...
>> But there are some nice tools for the web too:
>> 
>> - Tumult's Hype 3 is  a nice one  http://tumult.com/hype/ <http://tumult.com/hype/>
>> 
>> - the Greensock framework  https://greensock.com <https://greensock.com/>
>> 
>> or if you're more into SVG there's the awesome fabricjs - http://fabricjs.com <http://fabricjs.com/>
>> 
>> and last year I did loads of stuff using Framer  https://framer.com <https://framer.com/>
>> 
>> So - not all is lost... 
>> 
>> And the nice thing about most of the current stuff is, you don't have to take care about if a plugin is installed, or if it plays on mobile devices -> everything we got major headaches when I came to deploy Shockwave creations.  I have nothing to share (yet) because of tons of NDA restrictions, but will definitely show some prototypes later this year... 
>> 
>> The ones you showed are cool... I especially love the color-animation in Aleph Null!
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>>> Am 17.02.2017 um 08:44 schrieb Jim Andrews <jim at vispo.com <mailto:jim at vispo.com>>:
>>> 
>>> Very sorry to hear this. I guess eventually Shockwave content will only be viewable via  a virtual desktop serving up stuff from Windows XP and such. Probably not cheap. What's the story on that?
>>> As chance would have it, I've recently met Marc Canter and did a little work for him. Neat guy.
>>> The web has taken a step backwards from Director and Flash to HTML5. Less featureful and the tools aren't good. Mobile is a proprietary fiefdom. I suppose Unity is the alternative, at the moment.
>>> 
>>> I've tried to re-tool to 'responsive design' for mobile+desktop in JavaScript. Here are a couple of recent pieces. Would love to see some recent work from the Hopper greats. Including Shockwave or just documentation.
>>> 
>>> GLOBEBOP
>>> http://globebop.com/web <http://globebop.com/web> 
>>> Click the globe to be transported to a random location on the planet. Click the 'Star' button to be transported to a World Heritage Site. Click the magnifying glass (Search button) to read about where you are or search for locations. Click the Map View button to toggle between Map View and Street View. Here's an essay I wrote about Globebop: http://globebop.com <http://globebop.com/> 
>>> ALEPH NULL
>>> http://vispo.com/alephTouch/an.html <http://vispo.com/alephTouch/an.html>
>>> Click the "destroy" and "create" buttons (or 'd' and 'c' keys) until you get a couple of brushes you like. Here's a slideshow of (mostly 1920 x1080) images I created with Aleph Null 2.0: http://vispo.com/alephTouch/slideshow <http://vispo.com/alephTouch/slideshow> . Here's an essay I wrote about Aleph Null 2.0 and the screenshots: http://vispo.com/alephTouch/slideshow/info.htm <http://vispo.com/alephTouch/slideshow/info.htm> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jim Andrews
>>> 
>>> On 2/15/2017 4:18 PM, Joshua Chunick wrote:
>>>> Wow! I haven't heard about Director in a number of years and now within days I've heard about it twice... but the news is sad despite having moved on from Director for some time now. :-(
>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Roy Pardi <lists at roypardi.com <mailto:lists at roypardi.com>> wrote:
>>>> Huh? What? Is there going to be a wake?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Andy Fuchs <andy at foxwerk.de <mailto:andy at foxwerk.de>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> What the heck is Director?? ��
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 15.02.2017 um 17:17 schrieb Colin Holgate <coiin at verizon.net <mailto:coiin at verizon.net>>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Or whine, as the case may be.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 15, 2017, at 9:10 AM, Raman Pfaff <raman.pfaff at gmail.com <mailto:raman.pfaff at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A fine wine takes time. :)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Rp
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 11:06 AM, Colin Holgate <coiin at verizon.net <mailto:coiin at verizon.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> This message took a while to arrive!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 1, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Kettles, Buzz <buzzkett at ku.edu <mailto:buzzkett at ku.edu>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/27/adobe-will-stop-selling-contribute-and-director-on-february-1-drop-shockwave-for-mac-support-on-march-14/ <http://venturebeat.com/2017/01/27/adobe-will-stop-selling-contribute-and-director-on-february-1-drop-shockwave-for-mac-support-on-march-14/>
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> Adobe will stop selling Contribute and Director on February 1, drop Shockwave for Mac support on March 14
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
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