[Hopperxx] yay hopper

Wed Jul 9 19:45:18 CDT 2025

Love seeing all of your names again!

I went from Director to Flash to HTML5/CSS (first with CreateJS then with
PIXI with lots of content working right in the DOM).

Among other things I STILL release games over on Shockwave.com, a spin-out
from Macromedia in the late 90s. I remember auditioning my Jigsaw Player -
created in Director - in front of the Director lead engineers who did their
best to break it (they did not) and a career pivot was born…

Stay well all!

r o b

Robert Gordon
The Article 19 Group Inc.
514.938.8512
rob at article19.com
www.article19.com

On Wed, Jul 9, 2025 at 7:06 PM Jim Andrews <jim at vispo.com> wrote:

> The **SPAM** subject line is probably my fault. My Thunderbird email
> program adds it to a lot of email, and sometimes I forget to get rid of it
> before I send. Sorry.
>
> I still have Director 10 installed. Last time I checked, it was freely
> available on the web. Does anyone know what that official situation is?
>
> I encourage people on the list to give us an update on what you've done
> and what you're doing since Director bit the dust.
>
> I retooled to JavaScript/HTML/CSS. I'd done a little of that since 1996,
> but after Director, I really learned JavaScript/HTML/CSS.
>
> Here are some recent online pages/works of mine:
>
> VISPO.COM HISTORY (1996-present)
> https://vispo.com/misc/whatsnew.html
> I've maintained this page since 1998. When I post a new thing on vispo.com,
> I generally make an entry in this page, with a link. Not always, but
> usually. Anyway, I updated it recently to HTML5 cuz it had deprecated
> <font> tags and whatnot. I also put in an interactive timeline and an icon
> for most of the entries.
>
> LETTERS FROM LEIBNIZ (2024)
> https://vispo.com/aleph4/images/jim_andrews/leibniz/alchemy
> 158 images (3840x2160) generated in Aleph Null, the graphic synthesizer I
> wrote in JavaScript. These are images of Leibniz's writing, mainly. There's
> an essay I wrote about the project, also. I wrote the slideshow software
> (Slidvid) also.
>
> SEA OF PO (2024)
> https://seaofpo.vispo.com
> It's an appzine of 52 poets in a generative, kinetic, interactive,
> never-the-same-twice experience of 15 languages. It's a new experience of
> poetry and poetry magazines. It also animates and saves your texts, and
> creates deluxe screenshots. Yes, it's the Swiss army knife of digital
> poetry magazines and a literary blast of computer art.
>
> ENIGMA N2022 (2022)
> https://enigman.vispo.com
> Granular synthesis + colour music + digital poetry.
>
> NEONIO (2021)
> https://neonio.vispo.com
> This is an HTML5 version of a piece I created in Director, originally, in
> 2000 called Nio. Nio was the first piece of art I got paid to create; it
> was commissioned by turbulence.org. NeoNio uses the original 16 sounds
> and the original 16 animations. My wife converted the original 16 SWF
> animations into SVG. I used the Web Audio API to do the synchronizing and
> playing of sounds in NeoNio.
>
> ja
> On 2025-07-09 2:57 p.m., Dana wrote:
>
> It's nice to see that this little community is still together after all
> this time. I do primarily iOS development nowadays, but there are so many
> developers that you don't get the tight-knit feel.
>
> My last Director project was around 2010, though I've had a few requests
> since then to update some old projects. I still wonder if I have some
> kiosks chugging along in a museum or visitor center somewhere.
>
> Director made transitioning to iOS development fairly easy, having touch
> screen experience, and Lingo sharing Smalltalk roots with Objective-C.
>
> BTW, is anyone else seeing *** SPAM *** added to the subject line?
>
> On Wednesday, July 9th, 2025 at 7:17 AM, Danny Kodicek
> <dragon at well-spring.co.uk> <dragon at well-spring.co.uk> wrote:
>
> I was reading an article the other day talking about how modern websites
> are overengineered and full of unnecessary animations and complex
> JavaScript packages, and it made me think again how unfair it was back in
> the day when Flash (and Shockwave to a lesser extent) got the blame for
> people doing exactly the same thing. Surprise, surprise: killing Flash
> didn't stop bad design, it just made developers' lives harder.
>
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 10:04, Jim Andrews <jim at vispo.com> wrote:
>
>> It's great to hear from the amazing developers of Hopper.
>>
>> There are 38 members, all of whom have email addresses that are not
>> bouncing.
>>
>> I had to delete some bouncing email addresses from the list yesterday cuz
>> the bouncing was causing me not to be able to send any email from my
>> jim at vispo.com address, which is my main email address ("Domain vispo.com
>> has exceeded the max defers and failures per hour (10/10 (100%)) allowed.
>> Message discarded.")
>>
>> I talked with my hosting service three times on the phone about it.
>>
>> Consequently, today I sent an email to everyone, not from the list, but
>> from me, so I could see if it bounced. None of them bounced, today. Which
>> must mean I got rid of the bouncing addresses yesterday.
>>
>> So the re-start of the list was a little ragged, but I think it's working
>> OK now.
>>
>> Yes, Noisecrime, I too was very disappointed with the fate Adobe
>> inflicted on Director.
>>
>> ja
>> https://vispo.com
>> On 2025-07-09 1:28 a.m., Noise-Mail wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Jim for keeping the list alive.
>>
>> Every few years there seems to be a message that gets people back
>> together, but sadly those messages are getting less frequent.
>>
>> Can't quite believe this has been going for over a quarter of a century,
>> though I guess I also never thought that Director would die. In many ways I
>> feel it was ahead of its time, or at least could have been maintained and
>> updated to have become a force in the indie scene.
>>
>> Anyway nice to see some familiar names in here.
>>
>> NoiseCrime
>>
>>
>> On 08/07/2025 07:18, Jim Andrews wrote:
>>
>> Great to see some messages on Hopper again!
>>
>> I am the administer of the list.
>>
>> All the best to you, my friends!
>>
>> ja
>> https://vispo.com
>>
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