[Hopperxx] yay hopper

Jim Andrews jim at vispo.com
Wed Jul 9 18:06:38 CDT 2025


The **SPAM** subject line is probably my fault. My Thunderbird email 
program adds it to a lot of email, and sometimes I forget to get rid of 
it before I send. Sorry.

I still have Director 10 installed. Last time I checked, it was freely 
available on the web. Does anyone know what that official situation is?

I encourage people on the list to give us an update on what you've done 
and what you're doing since Director bit the dust.

I retooled to JavaScript/HTML/CSS. I'd done a little of that since 1996, 
but after Director, I really learned JavaScript/HTML/CSS.

Here are some recent online pages/works of mine:

VISPO.COM HISTORY (1996-present)
https://vispo.com/misc/whatsnew.html
I've maintained this page since 1998. When I post a new thing on 
vispo.com, I generally make an entry in this page, with a link. Not 
always, but usually. Anyway, I updated it recently to HTML5 cuz it had 
deprecated <font> tags and whatnot. I also put in an interactive 
timeline and an icon for most of the entries.

LETTERS FROM LEIBNIZ (2024)
https://vispo.com/aleph4/images/jim_andrews/leibniz/alchemy
158 images (3840x2160) generated in Aleph Null, the graphic synthesizer 
I wrote in JavaScript. These are images of Leibniz's writing, mainly. 
There's an essay I wrote about the project, also. I wrote the slideshow 
software (Slidvid) also.

SEA OF PO (2024)
https://seaofpo.vispo.com
It's an appzine of 52 poets in a generative, kinetic, interactive, 
never-the-same-twice experience of 15 languages. It's a new experience 
of poetry and poetry magazines. It also animates and saves your texts, 
and creates deluxe screenshots. Yes, it's the Swiss army knife of 
digital poetry magazines and a literary blast of computer art.

ENIGMA N^2022 (2022)
https://enigman.vispo.com
Granular synthesis + colour music + digital poetry.

NEONIO (2021)
https://neonio.vispo.com
This is an HTML5 version of a piece I created in Director, originally, 
in 2000 called Nio. Nio was the first piece of art I got paid to create; 
it was commissioned by turbulence.org. NeoNio uses the original 16 
sounds and the original 16 animations. My wife converted the original 16 
SWF animations into SVG. I used the Web Audio API to do the 
synchronizing and playing of sounds in NeoNio.

ja

On 2025-07-09 2:57 p.m., Dana wrote:
> It's nice to see that this little community is still together after 
> all this time. I do primarily iOS development nowadays, but there are 
> so many developers that you don't get the tight-knit feel.
>
> My last Director project was around 2010, though I've had a few 
> requests since then to update some old projects. I still wonder if I 
> have some kiosks chugging along in a museum or visitor center somewhere.
>
> Director made transitioning to iOS development fairly easy, having 
> touch screen experience, and Lingo sharing Smalltalk roots with 
> Objective-C.
>
> BTW, is anyone else seeing *** SPAM *** added to the subject line?
>
> On Wednesday, July 9th, 2025 at 7:17 AM, Danny Kodicek 
> <dragon at well-spring.co.uk> wrote:
>> I was reading an article the other day talking about how modern 
>> websites are overengineered and full of unnecessary animations and 
>> complex JavaScript packages, and it made me think again how unfair it 
>> was back in the day when Flash (and Shockwave to a lesser extent) got 
>> the blame for people doing exactly the same thing. Surprise, 
>> surprise: killing Flash didn't stop bad design, it just made 
>> developers' lives harder.
>>
>> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 10:04, Jim Andrews <jim at vispo.com> wrote:
>>
>>     It's great to hear from the amazing developers of Hopper.
>>
>>     There are 38 members, all of whom have email addresses that are
>>     not bouncing.
>>
>>     I had to delete some bouncing email addresses from the list
>>     yesterday cuz the bouncing was causing me not to be able to send
>>     any email from my jim at vispo.com address, which is my main email
>>     address ("Domain vispo.com <http://vispo.com> has exceeded the
>>     max defers and failures per hour (10/10 (100%)) allowed. Message
>>     discarded.")
>>
>>     I talked with my hosting service three times on the phone about it.
>>
>>     Consequently, today I sent an email to everyone, not from the
>>     list, but from me, so I could see if it bounced. None of them
>>     bounced, today. Which must mean I got rid of the bouncing
>>     addresses yesterday.
>>
>>     So the re-start of the list was a little ragged, but I think it's
>>     working OK now.
>>
>>     Yes, Noisecrime, I too was very disappointed with the fate Adobe
>>     inflicted on Director.
>>
>>     ja
>>     https://vispo.com
>>
>>     On 2025-07-09 1:28 a.m., Noise-Mail wrote:
>>>     Thanks Jim for keeping the list alive.
>>>
>>>     Every few years there seems to be a message that gets people
>>>     back together, but sadly those messages are getting less frequent.
>>>
>>>     Can't quite believe this has been going for over a quarter of a
>>>     century, though I guess I also never thought that Director would
>>>     die. In many ways I feel it was ahead of its time, or at least
>>>     could have been maintained and updated to have become a force in
>>>     the indie scene.
>>>
>>>     Anyway nice to see some familiar names in here.
>>>
>>>     NoiseCrime
>>>
>>>
>>>     On 08/07/2025 07:18, Jim Andrews wrote:
>>>>     Great to see some messages on Hopper again!
>>>>
>>>>     I am the administer of the list.
>>>>
>>>>     All the best to you, my friends!
>>>>
>>>>     ja
>>>>     https://vispo.com
>>>>
>>>>
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