[x] Kurzweil is Google Director of Engineering

Wed Jan 30 01:35:22 CST 2013

Neither my little apartment nor the space we have at SFU Woodwards is large 
enough to be able to publicize Group of X events for any sort of larger 
audience. So, for the moment, a Facebook page seems a bit too public. At 
least until we have a larger space. Having a larger space does not preclude 
Group of X events at my place. It would be nice to be able to offer speakers 
a couple of gigs; a smaller, more intimate one at my place or SFU, and a 
larger one, more public, elsewhere.

Are you familiar with Google+? It seems to offer some nice features. There's 
yer regular sort of list serve. Plus video chat. Plus a calendar.

ja

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Owen Turner" <ideatron at gmail.com>
To: "Computer Art Vancouver" <x at vispo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [x] Kurzweil is Google Director of Engineering

> some FB groups are very active and generate enormous hype/publicity for
> actual events..that is how Erik gets a lot of participants to his groups 
> :-)
>
> On Tue, Jan 29, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Jim Andrews <jim at vispo.com> wrote:
>
>> Discussion on Facebook seems pretty limited, in my admitedly rather
>> incomplete experience. Are you (or is anybody else) part of a Facebook
>> group in which extended epistolary correspondance regularly occurs? Also,
>> it isn't searchable, is it? Old posts disappear, aren't easily
>> referenceable. I could have this all wrong, I realize. Sorry, if so.
>>
>> Does Google offer some sort of umbrella thing whereby you can have a
>> regular list and also that's hooked into video chat and whatnot? What's 
>> the
>> 'whatnot'?
>>
>> ja
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeremy Owen Turner" <
>> ideatron at gmail.com>
>>
>> To: "Computer Art Vancouver" <x at vispo.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 10:09 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [x] Kurzweil is Google Director of Engineering
>>
>>
>>  how about an official facebook group?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ja
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Bogart" <bbogart at sfu.ca>
>>>> To: "Computer Art Vancouver" <x at vispo.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 1:51 PM
>>>>
>>>> Subject: Re: [x] Kurzweil is Google Director of Engineering
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks for the clarification Jim!
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll leave this thread as is!
>>>>>
>>>>> Ben
>>>>>
>>>>> On 13-01-29 11:43 AM, Jim Andrews wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Hi Ben,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The list is mainly for announcements. About Group of X events. But 
>>>>>> also
>>>>>> related things. Announcements about new work, reviews, shows, grants,
>>>>>> and so on. Kurzweil becoming Google Director of Technology is not any
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> these, of course, but it's a significant event very relevant to
>>>>>> computer
>>>>>> art.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Occassional discussions are OK as long as they're to the point and
>>>>>> occassional. I reserve the right to moderate the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ja
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Bogart" <bbogart at sfu.ca>
>>>>>> To: <x at vispo.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2013 8:45 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [x] Kurzweil is Google Director of Engineering
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Jeremy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Either way Ray *wants* to be a bot. ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've being working piecemeal on my anti-singularity argument on the
>>>>>>> IEET
>>>>>>> forums, here is one interesting back and forth:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ieet.org/index.php/S=****b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde****<http://ieet.org/index.php/S=**b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde**>
>>>>>>> 67c1d48cff/IEET/more/****cannon20120801<http://ieet.**
>>>>>>> org/index.php/S=**b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde**
>>>>>>> 67c1d48cff/IEET/more/**cannon20120801<http://ieet.org/index.php/S=b088321bcb65186863835f0124ebde67c1d48cff/IEET/more/cannon20120801>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have not been on this list for long, do discussions every happen?
>>>>>>> (or
>>>>>>> just announcements?)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> B.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 13-01-28 01:32 PM, Jeremy Turner wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On that subject, I wonder if I am following Ray's official page on
>>>>>>>> facebook... It seems that I am one of three people that like 
>>>>>>>> "Ray's"
>>>>>>>> links.. He could be a bot ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-28, at 12:18 PM, "Jim Andrews" <jim at vispo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  As Steve Dipaola pointed out to me on Facebook, Kurzweil's work as 
>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> software inventor and business man has been pretty spectacular. He
>>>>>>>>> was a leader in three quite advanced areas: optical character
>>>>>>>>> recognition; music synthesizers; and speech recognition. In all
>>>>>>>>> three cases, he developed successful software and associated
>>>>>>>>> businesses and sold them. He has been developing and selling
>>>>>>>>> software since his MIT days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> His writings as a futurist/transhumanist etc. and his writings 
>>>>>>>>> about
>>>>>>>>> "the age of spiritual machines" are probably more high-profile 
>>>>>>>>> than
>>>>>>>>> his very solid accomplishments as an inventor and software guy. 
>>>>>>>>> He's
>>>>>>>>> even written a poetry generator. He's a bit wacky on some points; 
>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>> says he believes it could be possible to live indefinitely into 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> future. Which makes you wonder if he has a grasp on what makes 
>>>>>>>>> life
>>>>>>>>> worth living. But he's clearly a good choice for Google if they're
>>>>>>>>> looking for vision concerning AI and a proven business track 
>>>>>>>>> record.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Anyway, I guess we're all wondering what he can do at Google about
>>>>>>>>> 'the age of spiritual machines'.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ja
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jesse Scott"
>>>>>>>>> <jessecolinscott at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "Computer Art Vancouver" <x at vispo.com>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2013 12:05 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [x] Kurzweil is Google Director of Engineering
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  He is one of the first AI / transhumanists, no ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-28, at 12:01 PM, B. Bogart <bbogart at sfu.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Indeed, odd! I'm curious if there are any singularity proponents
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> on here?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I recommend the documentary "Transcendent Man" for anyone who is
>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>> familiar with Ray:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.imdb.com/title/****tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1<http://www.imdb.com/title/**tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1>
>>>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.imdb.com/title/**tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1<http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1117394/?ref_=fn_tt_tt_1>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> B.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 13-01-26 11:54 PM, Jim Andrews wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Not quite sure what to make of it, but surely 'group of x
>>>>>>>>>>>> newsworthy':
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ray Kurzweil has been appointed Google Director of Engineering.
>>>>>>>>>>>> See, for
>>>>>>>>>>>> instance,
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.**engineeringonthee**dge.com/2013/**<http://engineeringontheedge.com/2013/**>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 01/kurzweil-focuses-on-ai-at-****google<http://www.**
>>>>>>>>>>>> engineeringontheedge.com/2013/**01/kurzweil-focuses-on-ai-at-**
>>>>>>>>>>>> google<http://www.engineeringontheedge.com/2013/01/kurzweil-focuses-on-ai-at-google>
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ja
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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