| <Jack2> |
I speak baby talk in Japanese. I read very very slowly. I'm aphasic, essentially
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| <Dirk> |
any influence from calligraphy or japanese poetry?
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| <Jack2> |
Yes, all of this influence was implanted years before I moved here
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| <PbN> |
Covers/nitric -- these are structures... beautiful...
* PbN is green
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| <Jack2> |
I've been proto american ever since I landed in Kyushu
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| <Jack2> |
american in language and outlook, not politics
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| <Surd> |
Nitric: www.fauxpress.com/nitric/base.htm
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| <Jack2> |
anyone check out Excruciating Redness?
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| <Jack2> |
It's at www.fauxpress.com/ex
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| <Dirk> |
yes -- my favorite!
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| <Surd> |
To me, the nitric pieces exist somewhere between print and the Web?
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| <Jack2> |
I'm really really liking simple stuff you can do
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| <Jack2> |
dirk, your favorite! yuh, and why?
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| <Jack2> |
between print and web, man and woman, dog and god
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| <Guest5> |
nice red, jack tools?
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| <Dirk> |
i guess since working with the web i've come to expect movement in pieces
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| <Jack2> |
nice red == tools, imagemaker bundled in photoshop 5.5
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| <PbN> |
much of language, I think, is structure -- so changing/warping structure changes language -- maybe?
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| <Jack2> |
tv has made us all queer for movement
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| <Jack2> |
language is structure -- where?
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| <PbN> |
then there's the words of language -- changing these changes the meaning
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| <PbN> |
but changing words happens within -- structure, without?
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| <smylie> |
meaning?
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| <Dirk> |
re: tv -- true -- is that bad though?
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| <Jack2> |
most of my text is about itself, of course
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| <Jack2> |
no, i like being queer about _something_ for chrissake
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| <PbN> |
your language structures are cool, Jack, like PbN's interest here
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| <Dirk> |
:-)
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| <PbN> |
you teach language, yes?
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| <PbN> |
you bend it nicely in the covers/nitric
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| <PbN> |
I admire you sense of color
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| <Jack2> |
language is key for a poet, eh? and yes, i've been teaching writing and language for a while
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| <Guest5> |
red words are read words or
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| <Jack2> |
I red your words with delight
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| <Jack2> |
what is color
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| <Jack2> |
that's the sort of question you come up with when you teach language
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| <Guest5> |
life calls i have to go
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| <Jack2> |
have a good one
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| <PbN> |
bye, Tom -- email to follow...
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| <Guest5> |
bye all
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| <Surd> |
Does it call 'i have to go'?
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| <Surd> |
Thanks, Tom?
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| <Jack2> |
nothing sadder than that quit sign
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| <Jack2> |
it's in _green_ font!
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| <PbN> |
he left excited...
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| <Jack2> |
greenly
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| <Surd> |
I thought it said excited too
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| <Jack2> |
this user is always excited
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| <Surd> |
Yes, I get that from your roamings, Jack.
* PbN wonders... who is runran?
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| <runran> |
hi ted, its randy
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| <Jack2> |
and where is police?
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| <PbN> |
Randy -- Mr Magneto -- I will remember now
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| <Surd> |
Just the Fire Personnel (and friends)
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| <Jack2> |
are comic books still important?
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| <Surd> |
Do you read them?
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| <Jack2> |
I used to read them for their falsities
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| <PbN> |
falsies? Salsa?
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| <Surd> |
I read them for their narrative and sequence, material material.
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| <Jack2> |
also their telepathetic communcations
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| <smylie> |
there many types of "comic book" do you read "visual novels"?
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| <Surd> |
Read lots of them as a kid.
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| <Jack2> |
the ones here in Japan are called manga, quite popular worldwide
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| <Surd> |
That was mostly what I read.
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| <Jack2> |
everyone reads them, substitutes for conversation, and i'm not joking
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| <Surd> |
Howso?
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| <smylie> |
what about that old old series called "the classics"?
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| <Jack2> |
you go to lunch with some pals. pals and you pull out the latest mangas and start chewing. 30 minutes later, back to the cubical
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| <runran> |
i was going to mention the classics too
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| <runran> |
learned a lot from them
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| <Dirk> |
classics illustrated?
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| <runran> |
yes
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| <Jack2> |
I learned to read fast from the classics
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| <Jack2> |
why can
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| <smylie> |
i liked them
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| <Jack2> |
why can't, I want to say, real books be as good as the comics?
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| <runran> |
barry, i was reminded of them when i viewed your homer
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| <Surd> |
good in what sense?
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| <smylie> |
yeah that was the concept
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| <Jack2> |
camaraderie, sex, gossip, you know
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| <Surd> |
as a subject of discussion, you mean, like the Japanese comics?
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| <Jack2> |
no the Japanese comics are about a post-extropian space with no objects
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| <PbN> |
here we have standup comics, but the classics like John Candy are all gone now
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| <Jack2> |
How about Gore?
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| <Surd> |
well the edge provides us with this conflict, this void...
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| <PbN> |
No, best we can offer is Bullard
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| <Jack2> |
is that a neoplatonic edge you're selling?
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| <smylie> |
neil gaiman and dave mckeen wrote a visual novel about a man dying of cancer -
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| <Jack2> |
it takes place where?
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| <smylie> |
signal to noise
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| <Surd> |
I mean that part of the edge is created by what makes art so improbable.
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| <Jack2> |
most of what I see in 'art' ain't improbable, I think
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| <smylie> |
why should art be probable?
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| <Jack2> |
it's part of the 'nature of the game'
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| <smylie> |
what does "probable" mean?
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| <smylie> |
is that a word?
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| <Jack2> |
it's the opposite of winning the lottery
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| <PbN> |
:)
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| <smylie> |
ahh...
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| <smylie> |
the lottery of babylon
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| <Surd> |
Art is improbable in the culture(s)...
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| <Jack2> |
nonetheless, culture percolates
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| <Jack2> |
Babylon was a babe
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| <smylie> |
through art?
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| <Jack2> |
a babe in arts
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| <PbN> |
or in a swimsuit?
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| <Jack2> |
squeezing a chicken
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| <smylie> |
which end happens?
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| <Jack2> |
magnetic lip sticks
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| <smylie> |
stucks
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| <Jack2> |
hotbeds of combat
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| <smylie> |
ohhh i want to write the word "wombat" badly
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| <PbN> |
please do
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| <Jack2> |
wombats are closed minded
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| <Dirk> |
lottery of babble-on -- tickets one shekel each
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| <Surd> |
When you do an eastvillage project, Jack, how do you formulate the project?
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| <Surd> |
I mean they are not random assortments of work.
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| <Jack2> |
either there is no formula and I just get some nice work, or I throw a dart at a map and do a region
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| <Surd> |
A region that you know well?
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| <PbN> |
I can appreciate your discipline, Jack
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| <smylie> |
do you have a url?
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| <PbN> |
do you have a gurl?
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| <Jack2> |
for some, but I hardly know canada, when you do something like this, you begin to know
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| <Surd> |
theeastvillage.com
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| <smylie> |
for yr all
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| <Jack2> |
gurls are babes
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| <Jack2> |
homepage fauxpress.com/kimball
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| <Surd> |
To help you with the selection process?
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| <Jack2> |
selections happen
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| <PbN> |
naturally
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| <Jack2> |
self-selections too
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| <Surd> |
?
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| <Jack2> |
the magic continues
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| <Jack2> |
a figure of speech
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