[Hopperxx] ***SPAM*** Re: Re: yay hopper

[Dana]

It's nice to see that this little community is still together after all this time. I do primarily iOS development nowadays, but there are so many developers that you don't get the tight-knit feel.

My last Director project was around 2010, though I've had a few requests since then to update some old projects. I still wonder if I have some kiosks chugging along in a museum or visitor center somewhere.

Director made transitioning to iOS development fairly easy, having touch screen experience, and Lingo sharing Smalltalk roots with Objective-C.

BTW, is anyone else seeing *** SPAM *** added to the subject line?

On Wednesday, July 9th, 2025 at 7:17 AM, Danny Kodicek <dragon at well-spring.co.uk> wrote:

> I was reading an article the other day talking about how modern websites are overengineered and full of unnecessary animations and complex JavaScript packages, and it made me think again how unfair it was back in the day when Flash (and Shockwave to a lesser extent) got the blame for people doing exactly the same thing. Surprise, surprise: killing Flash didn't stop bad design, it just made developers' lives harder.
>
> On Wed, 9 Jul 2025 at 10:04, Jim Andrews <jim at vispo.com> wrote:
>
>> It's great to hear from the amazing developers of Hopper.
>>
>> There are 38 members, all of whom have email addresses that are not bouncing.
>>
>> I had to delete some bouncing email addresses from the list yesterday cuz the bouncing was causing me not to be able to send any email from my jim at vispo.com address, which is my main email address ("Domain vispo.com has exceeded the max defers and failures per hour (10/10 (100%)) allowed. Message discarded.")
>>
>> I talked with my hosting service three times on the phone about it.
>>
>> Consequently, today I sent an email to everyone, not from the list, but from me, so I could see if it bounced. None of them bounced, today. Which must mean I got rid of the bouncing addresses yesterday.
>>
>> So the re-start of the list was a little ragged, but I think it's working OK now.
>>
>> Yes, Noisecrime, I too was very disappointed with the fate Adobe inflicted on Director.
>>
>> ja
>> https://vispo.com
>>
>> On 2025-07-09 1:28 a.m., Noise-Mail wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Jim for keeping the list alive.
>>>
>>> Every few years there seems to be a message that gets people back together, but sadly those messages are getting less frequent.
>>>
>>> Can't quite believe this has been going for over a quarter of a century, though I guess I also never thought that Director would die. In many ways I feel it was ahead of its time, or at least could have been maintained and updated to have become a force in the indie scene.
>>>
>>> Anyway nice to see some familiar names in here.
>>>
>>> NoiseCrime
>>>
>>> On 08/07/2025 07:18, Jim Andrews wrote:
>>>
>>>> Great to see some messages on Hopper again!
>>>>
>>>> I am the administer of the list.
>>>>
>>>> All the best to you, my friends!
>>>>
>>>> ja
>>>> https://vispo.com
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